Mean Girls 2024 doesn't address its own subject, which is the engagement tactics between women. There's a whole world of how women are with each other that men will never see, and gender dynamics affect a great many areas of life, so here is an examination of what changed from third to fourth wave feminism through Mean Girls.
One of the many things I enjoyed about The Good Place was that it had an Asian character portrayed as dumb. It did a great job of playing against stereotypes.
That’s really good to know. I thought that these ideas had only infiltrated the second generation of Indians born in the US - they think we’re oppressed even though Indians are so rich, and I don’t get it. You’re right about this thinking preventing loving yourself. Sometimes I wonder if several of my friends think I’ve lost my mind, but I feel like I’ve found the obvious problem keeping us from loving ourselves that no one wants to admit is THE problem.
I also didn’t realize the reluctance to criticize religions not your own for being harmful to women’s psyches had been exported, which is deeply unfortunate. I’ve noticed this tendency, and I’ve had it myself, whereby if your own religion is oppressive, you’re far more willing to criticize that than any other religion, especially anything about Islam. Now if there was consistency here it would be one thing, but the left is willing to criticize Christianity here but no other religion for anything, which is why we have leftists for Hamas.
Finally, I think it’s kind of crazy to refuse to criticize anything while claiming you’re critiquing dominant structures. We’re not tearing down the disempowerment born of thinking about the world this way and instead are tearing down all that might have made the world livable before the age of the smartphone - religion, community, family, etc. All of these things are under attack, and I don’t mean to be hyperbolic and sound like Tucker Carlson, but these three pillars of human life can’t be abandoned. We’re seeing the effects of doing so in the west, and I don’t like the results.
Oh dear! Speaking truth in our modern culture? You shall be summarily canceled :-) -- not by me. Glad you're asking these questions. Has anyone noticed the mental state of young girls today - teens and 20-somethings in the modern (western values abiding) world? Not good! And the modern world has never been less sexist, more willing to accommodate what women want, so what gives? No one wants to ask/tell/know...
PS> In case you think I'm some sort of traditionalist, I grew up, went to engg college in india in the '80s - one of 2 girls in a class of nearly 300 - considered myself a harcode feminist; never thought I'd shake my head at "feminism" but it's been distorted beyond recognition. I now say I'm just an old school feminist.
PPS> The other strange phenomenon... A LOT of work on behalf of women remains to be done in the medieval fundamentalist/ fanatical circles of certain regions/ religions... but strangely mentioning the issues in cultures that clearly need questioning on behalf of their women, is also verboten! I can't make sense of any of it anymore.
One of the many things I enjoyed about The Good Place was that it had an Asian character portrayed as dumb. It did a great job of playing against stereotypes.
I haven't seen this new one yet, but you've got me excited to hate-watch it!
That’s really good to know. I thought that these ideas had only infiltrated the second generation of Indians born in the US - they think we’re oppressed even though Indians are so rich, and I don’t get it. You’re right about this thinking preventing loving yourself. Sometimes I wonder if several of my friends think I’ve lost my mind, but I feel like I’ve found the obvious problem keeping us from loving ourselves that no one wants to admit is THE problem.
I also didn’t realize the reluctance to criticize religions not your own for being harmful to women’s psyches had been exported, which is deeply unfortunate. I’ve noticed this tendency, and I’ve had it myself, whereby if your own religion is oppressive, you’re far more willing to criticize that than any other religion, especially anything about Islam. Now if there was consistency here it would be one thing, but the left is willing to criticize Christianity here but no other religion for anything, which is why we have leftists for Hamas.
Finally, I think it’s kind of crazy to refuse to criticize anything while claiming you’re critiquing dominant structures. We’re not tearing down the disempowerment born of thinking about the world this way and instead are tearing down all that might have made the world livable before the age of the smartphone - religion, community, family, etc. All of these things are under attack, and I don’t mean to be hyperbolic and sound like Tucker Carlson, but these three pillars of human life can’t be abandoned. We’re seeing the effects of doing so in the west, and I don’t like the results.
Oh dear! Speaking truth in our modern culture? You shall be summarily canceled :-) -- not by me. Glad you're asking these questions. Has anyone noticed the mental state of young girls today - teens and 20-somethings in the modern (western values abiding) world? Not good! And the modern world has never been less sexist, more willing to accommodate what women want, so what gives? No one wants to ask/tell/know...
PS> In case you think I'm some sort of traditionalist, I grew up, went to engg college in india in the '80s - one of 2 girls in a class of nearly 300 - considered myself a harcode feminist; never thought I'd shake my head at "feminism" but it's been distorted beyond recognition. I now say I'm just an old school feminist.
PPS> The other strange phenomenon... A LOT of work on behalf of women remains to be done in the medieval fundamentalist/ fanatical circles of certain regions/ religions... but strangely mentioning the issues in cultures that clearly need questioning on behalf of their women, is also verboten! I can't make sense of any of it anymore.